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i##29 2018-07-24(Tue)10:10:27 (archived 2019-10-05(Sat)20:37:45) fake (NULL) 0
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iCan Gopher do everything the Web does? fake (NULL) 0
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i__[2018-07-24(Tue)10:15:07 #238]______________________________________ fake (NULL) 0
iThe Gopher protocol is often compared with the Web, and there fake (NULL) 0
ihave been people experimenting on gopherspace with things that are fake (NULL) 0
ireminiscent on the web. There are chans, phlogs, phikis, etc. But fake (NULL) 0
ican gopher really do what the Web can? fake (NULL) 0
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i__[2018-07-24(Tue)10:15:27 #239]______________________________________ fake (NULL) 0
iAnd what are Gopher's limitations? fake (NULL) 0
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iGopher is like the GET portion of HTTP. It is designed for users fake (NULL) 0
ito query and find information, but not really to submit/edit data. fake (NULL) 0
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iIt's hard to say because the Web is a mix of multiple fake (NULL) 0
itechnologies. You can serve HTML/CSS/JS/Flash/etc over Gopher fake (NULL) 0
itoo. And the protocol is agnostic enough that you *can* emulate most fake (NULL) 0
iof what the Web does, but whether you *should* is a different matter. fake (NULL) 0
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i@241 Okay, but how do you mean about the Web being multiple fake (NULL) 0
itechnologies if its just HTTP and HTML? And if things like CSS and fake (NULL) 0
iFlash is implemented on Gopher, how would they look like? fake (NULL) 0
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i@242 HTTP, HTML, CSS, JS, are multiple, distinct things that make fake (NULL) 0
iup "The Web". And they would look the same. You don't have to fake (NULL) 0
i"implement" them, a Gopher response can contain any kind of data, fake (NULL) 0
iits up to the client to make sense of it. fake (NULL) 0
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hHTML page with CSS and JS /misc/demo.html khzae.net 70
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iTo quickly compare gopher with HTTP: an HTTP request/response has: fake (NULL) 0
i1. The method (GET, POST...) 2. The selector (/some/page.html) fake (NULL) 0
i3. Headers (Host: foobar.com, Content-type: text/html), 4. The fake (NULL) 0
ibody. A gopher request is only #2 and a response is only #4. fake (NULL) 0
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iThere is only one "method", and the server doesn't send any fake (NULL) 0
iinfo like "Content-type: text/html" (i.e. telling the client fake (NULL) 0
ihow to render the data), that is encoded in the link to the data fake (NULL) 0
i(e.g. gopher://khzae.net/1/chan, the 1 means "display as a menu") fake (NULL) 0
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0If you change that character, the client will handle it differently /chan/tech/29 khzae.net 70
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iI see. How would CSS ans JavaScript would work on a gophermap, fake (NULL) 0
inot HTML. How would Flash and video look like on Gopher? fake (NULL) 0
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iTechnically the "gophermap" doesn't exist (to the client), it is fake (NULL) 0
itranslated in to a gopher menu. And I don't know of any attempts fake (NULL) 0
ito mix CSS or JS with a gopher menu. TBH I wouldn't want that, fake (NULL) 0
iI like that "style" is uniform and up to the client in gopher fake (NULL) 0
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;Here's a video someone posted in /misc/ /chan/misc/1/file_1481120569.webm khzae.net 70
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iMost gopher clients probably won't play it inside them, but hand fake (NULL) 0
iit off to a video player application or simply download it. But fake (NULL) 0
iif you view it over this server's HTTP gateway (which is a sort of fake (NULL) 0
ispecial gopher client), it should play in your web browser fake (NULL) 0
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hHTTP gateway version URL:http://khzae.net/;/chan/misc/1/file_1481120569.webm khzae.net 70
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iIt can do everything useful that the web does... fake (NULL) 0
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iAt 254: Gopher still doesn't have anything close to Amazon. If fake (NULL) 0
ithey had a marketplace (doubtful as it conflicts with Gopher's fake (NULL) 0
inon-commercial nature), I would likely abandon most of the WWW. fake (NULL) 0
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iI hope that gopher does not turn into another www. fake (NULL) 0
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iIf you want Web3.0 faggotry you know where to find it. If text fake (NULL) 0
ishitposting isn't good enough for you you should go outside. Fags fake (NULL) 0
iwanting muh 300MB swfs and 100 more MB of JS on their personal fake (NULL) 0
ipages just to display shitty emo poetry killed the web. fake (NULL) 0
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iGopher is super fast over Tor, while bloated websites take forever fake (NULL) 0
ito load. Tor and gopher were made for each other. fake (NULL) 0
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